Flight School II

More notes from Flight School afternoon sessions, in the extended entry. Anybody know how to make MT preserve hard line breaks, but still do word wrap?

Why space?
Louis Friedman, Planetary Society
Michael Simpson, International Space University
Robert Zubrin, Mars Society

One major product of space is inspiration
NASA is doing this well with Mars and Saturn missions
Sun-sail is the only viable interstellar mode of transport
Space is unforgiving, so what is your failure model, how will you recover

We have a chance to change humanity as fundamentally as those first who left east Africa and colonized the rest of the world

Burt Rutan and X-Prize didn’t touch very many people – space shuttle and government programs are what people hear about
Barry Bonds is having more impact in Scottsdale today than this conference
[seems overly pessimistic to me]

George Dyson:
On the Orion: He was 5, Esther 7 when Freeman was on Orion – another guy was going to take his kids, Freeman was not
Plan was that Freeman grandkids would be born on another planet
Final reports have been declassified, and heavily censored
Now we know what we don’t know
They built a flying model, with 1kg charges of c4
At the time physicists were allowed 400lbs of c4 without adult supervisions – not any more
Lots you can do without people
The war business is about killing as many people as possible as reliably as possible, whereas the space business is about killing as few as possible as reliably as possible, but they use the same technology – interesting

Brad Edwards
Carbon Designs
Space Elevator
First elevator 20ton capacity 13 ton payload
Cost $10b,15 yrs
Operating costs $100/lb to any earth orbit
Doing testing now on carbon nanotubes, believe they are much less explosive than Freeman believes
Carbon Designs is working on carbon nanotube based materials, 5-7 Gigapascals right now, going to 20-50 soon, striking distance for SE
Industry is still small, a few hundred, and a few from Europe, China, etc
China does have a lot of carbon nanotube research, they could potentially do this
“Soon someone will build a space elevator, and then the question of who owns the moon and Mars will have been answered”
Carbon Designs is going after terrestrial market for now, golf clubs, etc - not focused on space elevator
On the Space Elevator, working with foundations to set up centers for tourism, merchandising to fund some engineering

Jeff Greason
Xcor Aerospace
Believe that private sector exploration is a good partner for public sector
Space has an abundance of vision, but lacks execution and tactical focus
Located in Mojave, 14 people

Jess Sponable
Air Force Research Lab
Nice survey of technologies explored, billions of dollars expended
Have the tech today to do space exploration
Need a few things:
1. Thermal Protection Systems: Come back through atmosphere, need to dissipate a lot of energy to do that and stay alive
Have systems today 10-100x more durable than shuttle
2. Propulsion: rocket engines are 10-100x what jet engines are, still need advances here
3. Tanks are the key thing – design ships as flying propellant tanks
4. Avionics and software: lots of people who think they can apply computer tech to launch systems for much less $

Peter Diamandis
X-prize - the prize works
They had a really hard time raising the $
Good story - went to an ins company, made a multi-million dollar bet - if the prize isn't won by Jan 1 2005, then they keep the $, but if it is, they pay the whole $10m - leverage
They went to Boing, Lockheed, and figured nobody would win
Tried to renegotiate in 2004, but they got through it
Leverage was incredible

Peter is also CEO of ZeroGravity
Cost is $3750 per person
Convert a DHL cargo jet during the day to do zero g flights with 27 people per flight
Do lots of corporate events, television and movie work
Going national
Only pay for the plane when they fly it, so make $ every time they fly
Looking for funding, have raised $4m so far
Revenues in first 6 mos about $2.5m, expect about $6m in first year
High margin business

Eric Anderson
Space Adventures
Were the ones who did Dennis tito, Mark Shuttleworth, have 2 more clients in the pipe - only company to send tourists to space
Also sell experiences in MiGs, ZeroGravity, astronaut training in centrifuges, deep sea submersibles, etc
Working with some other providers to do suborbital flights
Founded 1997
Claim that there are 15,000 people who would pay $100k to go to space
Raised about $2-3m 3-4 years ago
They were a broker for Dennis Tito's flight, but changing model to rep the seats - bought them in advance, and now re-selling them

Charles Miller
Constellation Services International
Space cargo services
Comment to Bruce at NASA: we don't need tech partnership, we need you as a customer - please go outside NASA for services

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